3 Types Of Thieves Preppers Should Be Planning For

January 21, 2015

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The purpose of this article is to discuss the Human threat to your retreat location.  This Human threat can take on multiple modes, some very dangerous to your safety and others not so much.  The trick, of course, is figuring out the nature of each and every encounter while you can still affect the outcome.

Much like playing in a Role-Playing-Game (RPG), you won’t know the nature of an encounter until you’re in it.  Will you benefit from it?  Will you be in danger because of it?  What type of benefit might you obtain or what threat might you face?  There is no way of knowing in advance, and every encounter carries some degree of risk.  With a RPG such things are decided by a roll of dice.  With real life things are decided by the minds and morals of men, though some might consider the “fickle finger of fate” in the mix as well.

Note: A RPG, such as Twilight 2000, is an excellent way to test your defensive concepts in a fairly realistic manner without having to do a full exercise with all your people as well as someone to stand in for your opponents etc.  Use the RPG environment to get an idea of how many attackers a specific defense can hold against, how weapons variations can make a difference to both attackers and defenders, as well as how the introduction of other “variables” might affect things.

What kinds of threats are we talking about?  I’ll start with what I refer to as two-legged Locusts (or 2LLs for short).  These are people who will, for whatever reason, wander across the landscape much like a swarm of Locusts.  These people will consume everything in their path, only pausing when they stumble across a well-stocked area, and then only until they’ve eaten everything available in that place.  Bear in mind that while the amount of food in a place will govern how long they stay, they will likely strip most places of everything else of use or value while they are at it.  Some Preppers refer to this threat as the “golden horde” which is also an apt describer of them since they will almost certainly strip the land much as the Mongol Horde did in ancient times.  Why might people leave their homes to become 2LLs?  They may elect to leave their home area due to food shortages, encroaching threats, or similar.  Alternately they may have been physically forced from their homes.  Why they ended up as 2LL is immaterial, the fact that they are is all that matters to the people they run into.  The good news is that most of this type of threat won’t be very organized, nor will they have much tactical skill.  Their most common approach will be what’s known as “hey diddle diddle, straight up the middle” AKA the well-known frontal assault.  No real finesse, just the equivalent of a bum rush.  Some of these might exhibit some organization, but it won’t be much or they’d be organized enough to stay in an area and homestead it.  This is also the group I think of when people talk about zombies, as I expect these will have very similar results to a “zombie apocalypse”.  Sure, the 2LLs won’t eat your brains (I hope), but whether they kill you to get to your food or devour what was going to keep you alive the end result is the same.  This type of threat may be somewhat tolerant of casualties, meaning that a few casualties may not convince these people to pass your retreat up.  In fact, if they are desperate enough, it may take substantial casualties inflicted on the 2LL before they will leave you alone.

The next group of concern is what I call raiders.  These will be more organized than the 2LLs, and in many cases far more violent.  While these may be nomadic or operate from a fixed base, I see these as different from the 2LLs because their attacks will be more hit and run or grab and go in nature.  In other words these threats will be of shorter duration and typically very specific in their objectives.  I expect that this threat will be far less tolerant of casualties than the 2LL, in fact I suspect if they encounter anything resembling a well-organized defense they will avoid it and focus their sights on easier prey.  Of course, much depends on the “prize” they anticipate from the target of their attention.  The more they want what a specific target location has, the more willingly they will accept casualties.  Much also depends on the nature of the raiders themselves and how they came to be raiders.  I expect many raider groups will grow from motorcycle clubs (or gangs if you prefer), though they could develop from a variety of other groups as well.  I expect that the ones from clubs made up of folks who like to ride to be less violent and more opportunistic in nature.  I anticipate that those made up of “outlaw” club chapters (Hell’s Angels and similar) will be far more violent in every aspect of their activities.  Raiders will, for the most part, be highly mobile and heavily armed.  These will be the “run and gun” threats for most folks after TSHTF.  Note: A Raider group may be under the direction or control of an Overlord, see below.

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The most serious threat to Preppers is what I’ll call Warlords or Overlords.  The basic concept resembles a feudal system, where a person in a position of authority provides protection or control over other people for a percentage of whatever they have or produce.  In Medieval times the person in charge would have belonged to the nobility and have knights as well as men-at-arms to enforce their will and protect their holdings.  In modern times the person who ends up “in charge” of a given area following TEOTWAWKI might be the County Sheriff (as they already wield much power in their county), some other “elected official”, the patriarch (or matriarch) of a wealthy family, the owner of the largest employer in the area, etc.  The “men-at-arms” could be local law enforcement, members of various “clubs”, or a local militia.  The major threat to Preppers would arise if the Overlord sees them as a threat, though confiscation of weapons and/or supplies would also pose a threat to them.  Secondary concerns would include things like requirements for Prepper group members to provide labor, services, or taxes as well as limitations to the group’s ability to trade etc.  The severity of these threats will be based on 2 considerations; the personality of the Overlord (tyrannical, domineering, paranoid, charismatic, benevolent, etc.) and the severity of the SHTF situation that led to the current status.

There are other potential threats for Preppers following TEOTWAWKI, ranging from neighbor issues to assorted smaller groups approaching the retreat.  These should not be discounted or ignored.  But they will be minor in comparison to the 2LL, Raiders, or Overlords.  Dealing with any of these dictates 24X7X365 vigilance for as long as ROL (Rule of Law) is not in force and the maintenance of a low profile in general.  How you deal with these threats will be based on the size comparison between your group and the threat group and the specifics of the situation you find yourself in.  Good luck!

About Rick Cox

Rick became a soldier when he was 17 years old and spent 8 years active duty with a total of 5 MOS's. After leaving the Army and returning to his family he realized civil defense was no more and because a prepper before it was even a word. Today he offers a prepper consulting service and is the head of sales at Fortitude Ranch which is a dedicated prepper community.

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13 Responses to “3 Types Of Thieves Preppers Should Be Planning For”

  1. Dan Says:

    It’s a crying shame that TEOTWAWKI would finally rid us of the thieving government only to create many more thieves we have to worry about.

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    • Juan Says:

      They are not thieves, just lazy, narrow minded bums.

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    • stew redmen Says:

      Kind of like that movie where they blow up the one big asteroid only to have hundreds or thousands more now coming at them instead.
      At least they will be much weaker then dealing with the one big one you had little chance with if you were discovered.

      Either way, the best defense/security will be, [and always has been] ‘out of sight, out of mind’
      People don’t take what they aren’t aware of.

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    • Rick Cox Says:

      History is full of situations where groups would rather take from others than do for themselves, so why should we expect anything different in a SHTF situation? There are entire civilizations that fit one or more of these categories in the annals of history. We can be sure that others will do the same when/if the opportunity presents itself.

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    • Samuel Says:

      The government will likely supply us with Overlords.

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  2. rassd71 Says:

    There is another threat, one that has bounced around the community for decades. When I first encountered this particular ‘survival model’, it was presented by a persona calling themselves ‘GunKid’. Many will remember this particular one, but the model has since grown and I’ve heard several present it. And that’s the ‘lone wolf’ marauder. An individual with enough foresight, or even just enough luck to survive whatever ‘SHTF’ and then pick off the weak or the vulnerable. Sniping or poisoning preppers. Coming in as a sheep to various groups, often with needed skills and talents, only waiting to strike. Like your 2LLs, taking what they want/need, leaving death and destruction in their wake. And a few have even mentioned leaving poisoned supplies behind to stop anyone from following them.

    They are one of the biggest reasons to practice OpSec regarding what you have, both before and after such an event, starting yesterday.

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    • Chet Says:

      Very well said.

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    • Rick Cox Says:

      Good points rassd71. I’ll also suggest that such tactics might be utilized by the more organized of the 3 groups I wrote about. Basically a trojan horse approach designed to get a spy into your retreat to gather intel about you, sabotage you, or facilitate a direct attack on you.

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  3. km Says:

    There are other factors involved when an event occurs, namely weather patterns such as storms, earthquakes, etc. which would kill many. Nuclear fallout in various places, plagues, military occupation in many areas. So a lot of those so-called hordes of people will likely perish, or be confined into camps!

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    • Chet Says:

      True. But they just never actually seem to have enough space for all those looking for a camp.

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    • Rick Cox Says:

      Maybe km. Question is, are you willing to bet your life (and the lives of your family/friends/group) on that supposition. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst is a Prepper mantra for a reason. And I’ll point out that it doesn’t take a “horde” to be a threat. History tells us that having a 3 to 1 advantage in numbers will usually enable an attacker to overwhelm a defender. How many people that means will vary from group to group, so please do take that into consideration.

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